Question #122
Baptism is a work and we are not saved by works, right?
On your web site, you state the salvation occurs only when baptism takes place. If that is true how do you deal with Eph. 2:8 -9? “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.” Salvation is either all Grace or no grace. You cannot mix grace and works. It has to be one or the other. The thief on the cross had no chance to do the work of baptism. Did Jesus lie to him when He promised that “today thou shall be with me in Paradise?” before you answer that, you may want to study Paradise to see what Jesus was referring to. I am anxiously waiting to here from you on this, the most crucial issue, the salvation of souls.
The Answer:
The following response also applies to Question 125 and Question 208.
These three questions all relate to whether baptism is essential to salvation. The inquirers are directed to our Lesson on Baptism, and to
Question 4, Question 27, Question 60, Question 81, Question 84, Question 117, Question 141, Question 120 and Question 215. In addition to that information, the following comments may be made.
First, there is no serious dispute about the identity of Paradise – it is the Hadean realm. See Luke 16:19-31. The question is not whether Jesus and the thief went to Paradise; the question is whether the thief was subject to the baptism of Jesus. Those who ask, “What about the thief,” ask that question because there is no record that the thief was ever baptized. Those who ask the question assume from the silence of the scripture that he was not baptized. They never offer any proof that he was not; they just ask all to believe that their unproved assumption is correct. Arguments from silence are always dangerous, especially if there is any evidence at all upon the issue.
Second, there is some evidence on the issue.
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The thief knew something about Jesus, about the kingdom, and that he needed Jesus. Where did he get that information? While the scripture does not speak directly to that question, it does suggest at least two possibilities – the preaching of John the Baptist and the preaching of Jesus and His disciples.
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Both the preaching of John or of Jesus both included baptism. Mark 4:1 (John); John 4:1-2 (Jesus). John’s baptism was one of repentance for the remission of sins.
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Great multitudes went out to John to be baptized by him (Mark 1:4-5; Matthew 3:5-6; Luke 3:7; John 4:1-2).
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John baptized multitudes; Jesus through his disciples baptized even more (John 4:1-2).
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Third, in light of this evidence it is more probable than not that the thief was among the multitudes who heard and were baptized. There is certainly more Biblical evidence in favor of the assumption that he was baptized than there is in favor of the assumption that he was not. The positive assumption has all of the circumstantial evidence; the negative assumption has none. The problem is that both are still assumptions.
But did the thief need the baptism of the great commission? Here the answer is clear. He did not. See Question 4 and Lesson 3. But someone has raised a question about when the thief died in relationship to the death of Christ and postulated that the thief died after Christ and thus was subject to the baptism of the great commission. Of course, this ignores that fact that he was pardoned before the death of Christ. Additionally, it ignores that the baptism of the Great Commission was no commanded until after the death of Christ and was not preached before Pentecost.
Finally, it is regrettable that the person who asked you the question is working so hard to find some way to avoid the clear teaching of scripture that baptism is for (in order to obtain) the remission of sins when the truth is that it is irrelevant to his condition. He did not die before the baptism of the great commission was commanded or before it was preached. Without dispute, he lives under and is governed by the great commission and that which by inspiration began to be preached on the day of Pentecost. Look at the chart on the purpose of baptism in response to Question 120 and Question 215. If, instead of asking how he could get around the command he asked what he must do, the answer of Peter and scripture would still be the same: “Repent ye, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.” Acts 2:38.
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